Mark Shapiro had to scratch and claw to get Around the Horn on the air.
Shapiro, now the president and COO of Endeavor and TKO, was the ESPN programming chief who spearheaded the creation of Pardon the Interruption in 2001. The network’s great success with PTI helped lead to the launch of Around the Horn the following year. The “Happy Hour” block from 5 to 6 p.m. ET has endured for more than two decades, a profound rarity in TV.
With Around the Horn set to conclude in late May, Shapiro reflected on the process of getting the show off the ground in an interview with Front Office Sports.
“It was really the same process as Pardon the Interruption,” Shapiro said. “I laid out a template of what I was looking for—opinions, debate, and news—from various corners of the country.”
Similarly to how PTI’s Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser were affiliated with The Washington Post, Around the Horn worked with newspapers like The Boston Globe, Los Angeles Times, Chicago Sun-Times, The Denver Post, and The Dallas Morning News to get writers like Bob Ryan, Jackie MacMullan, Bill Plaschke, T.J. Simers, Jay Mariotti, Woody Paige, and Tim Cowlishaw to appear on the show. The logos of their newspapers appeared on glass behind them on the screen.
“What we knew we wanted is—sports is argument,” Shapiro said. “Look at the power and success of sports radio. We wanted that on TV … so we built it backwards.”
Shapiro said he was met with ample internal resistance to the idea, but nonetheless plowed ahead.
“All the sales guys were telling us, ‘It’s gonna hurt SportsCenter. We can’t sell it. It’ll never do ratings. It’ll never hit critical mass.’ I can’t tell you what we were up against,” Shapiro said. “If I wasn’t running programming—and don’t get me wrong, the success of a show has to do with talent and format, and a lot of people deserve credit for that—but in running programming, I was able to kind of stuff it through.”
The success of the “Happy Hour” block with PTI and Around the Horn led to another hour of talk programming preceding the programs, with Jim Rome Is Burning and 1st and 10, the predecessor to First Take that was part of the Cold Pizza morning program featuring Jay Crawford as moderator with Skip Bayless debating Stephen A. Smith, Woody Paige, and others.
Around the Horn was originally hosted by Max Kellerman—who got the job before his 30th birthday—and produced by Bill Wolff, who later went on to produce Rachel Maddow’s MSNBC show.
Shapiro credited Jim Cohen, who worked for him at ESPN and later was an NFL Network executive, with hammering down a lot of the details, bells, and whistles on turning elements of sports-talk radio into a game show on TV.
“I’m not gonna call them misfits, but Jim threw in a collection of eccentrics. Some experts, some not so expert. He put them in a conference room for a week, and they came up with a bunch of ideas. We debated them and ultimately came out with a format that we thought was workable,” Shapiro said, recalling that Cohen even brought his sports-fan dentist in for input.
Reached by phone, Cohen said, “That sounds like me.” To read more about the early days of Around the Horn, as well as what led to the departure of Max Kellerman and promotion of Tony Reali, you can read Ryan Glasspiegel’s full story here.
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